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In My Own Voice

As one of the East Brunswick residents who filed an appeal challenging the use variance granted to Hatikvah charter school to locate in a warehouse in an industrial zone, I am writing to address the persistent mischaracterization of both my position and myself by supporters of the school.

Few people attended the Zoning Board hearing to hear my position in my own voice.  If you are interested, you can read the attached document. I have consistently pointed out that, especially given my own elementary education at a Schechter school in Chicago, I respect the goals and motives of the Hatikvah school.  It remains a great frustration and sadness to me that my motives and sincerity are questioned in light of my own background. 

Disagreeing with the choice to locate a school in an industrial zone does not make me anti-charter, anti-Zionist, anti-Hatikvah, anti-East Brunswick or divisive in the community.  It makes me a participant in the democratic processes established in this town to ensure all residents can participate in important decisions regarding our town’s future. 

I do not believe that a warehouse in an industrial zone is the right place for a school.  The reasons I enumerated in my testimony remain.  Beyond my reservations that our town would see fit to make this precedent setting decision to place school children between two warehouses on a dilapidated road, the Zoning Board meeting itself convinced me that public participation was viewed as a necessary nuisance rather than a valuable addition to the process. 

I have been excoriated for believing this school location is a bad idea.  I have been attacked in print, in public, and in emails by a well-organized, small group of people who support the school.  I am often asked that if the parents of Hatikvah feel this is an adequate location, then what right do I have to challenge the decision? But this is not just about those parents who currently use the school – this is a public school open to all East Brunswick children, present and future. And it is part of the East Brunswick Public School System that we all contribute to – so we all have a stake and a say. 

Despite knowledge of the appeal, a private foundation has spent $2.7 million to purchase the warehouse on Lexington Avenue for the school, and the Friends of Hatikvah have entered a rental agreement for the building with the school.  If they want to continue to receive public funds for their school, amidst these generous private backers, then I respectfully suggest they need to adjust to the reality that public participation will be part of their decision making processes.  If they had acknowledged that at the outset – before choosing this location – we could have had community discussions before the appeal process not during and after.   

Deborah E Cornavaca

lindacar

12:11 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Thank you for being so forthright about your position. Some people only like democracy when the majority of people agree with them. In this case, the school knows it is not supported by our town (well, financially yes, but in principle no) and so it has purposefully negated public participation.

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I was skeptical

12:45 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Dear Linda, you admit to not be a community supporter of the school. I see no problem with that. I am not a supporter of various public funded entities. We all have our choices. But at the council meeting someone mentioned that 2 public meetings took place regarding the school's moving. Why didn't you attend? I don't understand your statement. If this results in more wasteful expenses to be paid by residents then I for one will never elect any of these people. Even if they seek higher office outside of town. Supposing there is a lawsuit, can the two women cover the townships legal expenses?

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Kelly

2:00 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Actually, the school was asked during the council meeting (look in the minutes) if public meetings were held regarding the placement of the school, and the school's attorney stuttered a few times, looked back to the school personnel and didn't have an answer to the question. At the time of the Zoning Board decision, when the real estate transaction had already been negotiated, there had been no public meetings. At that time, the school had already gone ahead with its decision without public input.

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I was skeptical

2:27 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Kelly, in response to your 2pm comment, I don't understand what kind of public meeting you refer to? The towns zoning commission had public meetings. Are you saying that the town should have held a bond referendum merting and borrowed money to build a school on Lexington avenue? I read that a private company is building everything. Thats good since it doesnt cost me anything. So what more public meetings do you need? I think that you just plain don't like a school that I actually credit 100% for making the BOE implement full day kindergarten for the entire town. Did this possibly benefit your family in any way by reduced child care costs? If so then you should send a thank you letter instead of attack them. Geez.

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Kelly

9:44 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Yes, skeptical, that is exactly what I am saying: community input should've happened before this real estate deal was negotiated.

Norman

9:55 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Well said Ms Cornavaca and hats off to you for taking the time to explain your position. I have to admit that previous to your letter I for one had made some very inaccurate assumptions about your background and motives...SHAME ON ME. And yes it is unfortunate that this seems to have divided our community, And just for the record, I am not affiliated with Hatikvah nor do I have children attending.

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Patch me in

10:02 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Lack of transparency? You and Christine personally attended many of the board of trustees meetings for months! If you had any concerns or issues or wanted to have dialog, how come you did not raise your concerns in those meetings? I think your letter is misleading. You have done everything to oppose the school at every step of the way. What it seems is that your only negotiation would be no school at all. After all aren't the schools board meetings open to the public now? The meeting dated are posted for all to see. Is it there fault if no one attends?

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Christine

10:32 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

That is true - we did try asking the school for useful dialogue. In fact, a Hatikvah patent even asked us to meet with the school director and board members, but the school wanted no such thing.

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Anne

9:25 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Patch me in, WHERE IS HATIKVAH'S LOTTERY BEING HELD, ON THURSDAY? And, at what time? For transparency's sake and all!

Patch me in

10:03 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

I meant the meeting dates are posted.

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Christine

10:35 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

The meeting dates were posted only recently, after it was pointed out that Hatikvah was not adhering to the State's Open Public Meeting Act.

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Paying Attention

3:22 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

The meeting date for the most recent Hatikvah Board meeting was posted but the time was given as 7:30pm, when the actual meeting was at 2pm. That certainly didn't promote transparency and public attendance.

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Paying Attention

3:24 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

The meeting date for the most recent Hatikvah Board meeting was posted but the time was given as 7:30pm, when the actual meeting was held earlier in the day at 2pm. That certainly didn't promote transparency or public attendance.

Jean Valjean

10:15 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

I am interested in reading the document Ms Cornavaca mentions in her letter. How can I get access to this?

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Deborah Cornavaca

12:25 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

The PDF of my testimony is on the side bar. If it die not open please let me or the Patch know.

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Deborah Cornavaca

12:26 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Die= does. My apologies for the typo.

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Deborah Cornavaca

12:51 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013

To clarify the record, I have attended numerous Board meetings. The first one I attended I spoke about proposed charter regulations that would grant the Commissioner of education unilateral and arbitrary authority to close charter schools - and I urged to board to join the protest to this capricious regulatory change. To Patch Me In, please be specific as to how I have opposed you? To ask you to follow the laws of open government? As Larry has pointed out, Hatikvah is a public school and required to follow laws of open public meetings and records. To advise you of current regulatory changes that threaten your ability to stay open? Just because I object to the schools location does not warrant characterizing me as opposing you at every step. The record demonstrates otherwise. That is my point to my blog here.

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EBHS grad

11:51 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

I grew up in EB and my parents live within walking distance of this proposed site. This building is far from a "warehouse." Most of it is office space and it's in pristine condition, far better than the majority of elementary schools located in EB. The street it's on is as quiet as it gets in EB and it's certainly safer than most school roads. It's not a through-street and there's barely a car on it for the most part. There are acres - ACRES - of lush woods behind the building. You are completely mischaracterizing the property. You wonder why people question your motives but how many residents are paying a Hill Wallack lawyer to appeal the zoning board's decision under the guise that you want to engage in the democratic process? Or is some other entity actually footing that bill???

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I was skeptical

12:27 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

I have been reading about this school for a week now on patch and saw some of the meeting on channel 3. So on my way up route 18 yesterday I decided to go see where this property is. After my maps strangely took me to some side street with houses in south river I finally figured out where I was supposed to go. Anyway I stopped at the "correct" Lexington avenue and agree with the last person posting. I did not see a single truck let alone even one car go by for the entire 15 minutes I was looking around. The building is very well maintained as is the landscaping. I took a photo but don't know how to share it. There are residences right across from the building and I could see their windows and yards.

The council members definitely never visited this property. I feel embarrassed for them that they are making a spectacle of themselves.

I actually think its a very nice location for a school. Much much quieter than the streets that any school is on and possibly less traffic than the amount of cars that go by memorial school which is also on a local road.

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Kelly

1:15 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

@Skeptical
That's great that you went and checked it out. Why did you conveniently leave out that it has warehouses on three different sides of it? One is a sheet metal company, one repairs lunch trucks and the other is empty and who knows what the other will be. You really think those are appropriate neighbors for a school? If you do, then I respectfully disagree and have a hard time taking your evaluation of the property seriously.

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I was skeptical

2:01 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Dear Kelly, I did not "conveniently" leave out that there are other buildings on the street. But why would those other uses be any better of a neighbor to the existing houses surrounding those buildings? You have to consider that.

I do not know where the sheet metal place is but can only assume it is around the bend which is out of site of this building. I understand you have a concern but you are sensationalizing and "conveniently" leaving out the fact that people live closer than the school is to those other buildings. You have to concede the fact that this road has next to no activity and it is a dead end. Why is that worse than where Irwin school is - with a strip mall in its front yard and cars zooming up and down Racetrack Road all day long while our children play on the swings? If some child lurker is hiding out they can be anywhere in town or it could even be your next door neighbor!

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Kelly

2:15 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Dear Skeptical,
If Irwin is in a poor location, that does not justify also putting Hatikvah in a poor location.
Also, you are not being truthful about the proximity of the houses vs. the other warehouse. The vending truck company is as close to the warehouse as my next door neighbor's house is to mine. The nearby townhouses are far outside of this zone. But, people should follow your lead and go see for themselves.

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I was skeptical

2:56 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Kelly your latest post at 2:15 is inaccurate. Those houses can be no more than 75 feet from the curb on Lexington. Looking at a google map I estimate that the vending company is about 200 feet from the closest part of the school. How far is your neighbors house to yours? You left that out.

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Kelly

4:03 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Oh, you sound like quite the engineer. I disagree with your description. I think everyone should go see for themselves.

I was skeptical

12:29 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Sorry ran out of room.

I read somewhere that the appeal people said the road was too bumpy for a school. There were some potholes which is really the job of the town to fill in. But it's in better shape than the street I live on.

I feel bad for the school having to be delayed since I see there current location on Cranbury road which does not look very spacious.

Why cant our town leaders hold their next meeting at the property to allow them a reality look at the situation? I am ashamed to have voted for some of those individuals.

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Kelly

1:18 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

@skeptical
I feel bad for these school children also, in that the school chose to house them in trailers for two straight years shows the mindset of the school leadership. That Hatikvah has decided an industrial park is an appropriate place for a school is not that big of a surprise after seeing 40 kids crammed into a trailer for six hours a day, there.

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I was skeptical

2:34 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Oh please, stop. How can you now attack the leadership of the school. If you could do better then send your resume to them. This location is not an industrial park. Mill road in Edison is an industrial park. As far as trailers go the school system in town has used them many times over the years for classrooms. Now after Hurricane Sandy, there are entire schools in NJ housed in trailers. Please use some rationale. I get it, you hate the school and want them to close. Maybe you should go visit the school and report back if the children are smiling and learning and enjoying being children. You clearly enjoy being a child.

Paying Attention

3:37 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

I'm wondering why Hatikvah has had three principals in three years. That's a high turnover rate, certainly higher than in the other public elementary schools in our school district.

The reason oft touted for charter schools in inner cities is that public schools have failed the children. I look forward to seeing how the standardized tests of Hatikvah students measure up to those of students in other EB public elementary schools. The proof of effectiveness of the education will be in student performance.

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See for yourself

3:55 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

so I guess a unanimous zoning approval is no longer your concern. the more you write, the more you look for any reason to attack the school. charter schools don't mean inner cities. ever hear of a science & technology charter school (monmouth county)? Or a performing arts charter school? how about the princeton charter school?

anyway, suppose they outperform the other schools, you'll probably say that the tests were fixed too. why do they have a waiting list?

I bet your family benefited from full day kindergarten at some other district school, to the credit of this one. but I can't change your personal mission to discredit anything this school does. still though, seems odd that now the BOE is discussing offering foreign languages at an earlier age.

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Paying Attention

6:52 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

No, my children did not benefit from full-day public kindergarten. Both of my two children attended 3 years of private pre-school and 1 year of private full-day kindergarten and those 4 years cost more than my college education. I don't regret a penny. Thanks to the 12 years of education our children received in East Brunswick Public Schools, particularly the gifted and talented program in elementary and middle school and honors and AP courses in high school, they went to a top-ranked private college, graduated and now are gainfully employed in their chosen profession.

I am deeply concerned that our terrific public school system is being undermined by this ill-conceived plan to locate a charter school in a warehouse. The superb reputation of our public schools will be tarnished if this plan is allowed to proceed.

Deborah Cornavaca

4:12 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

I believe the presumption is that this is not a good location for a school - it is not zoned for that purpose for a reason. Mr. Leiber showed a google maps photo when that building was used heavily for transport and he said he counted something like 50 trucks in the lot (I do not have the transcript in front of me Mr. Leiber so please forgive me if you feel I have not captured your statement fully on that picture). With 5 Lexington Avenue for sale/lease imagine if a company brings in that density of truck traffic to that road. They would not need a variance because the area is zoned for it. I truly believe if this had been a community discussion at the outset, as is recommended by federal guidelines for site selection of schools and as is the norm for our district, our community could have come to consensus rather than this unfortunate, and too often petty, fighting at this late juncture.

Please remember, Hatikvah is a public school and we all have a stake and a say as we do with our entire public school system. People who do not have children in our school system often speak before the Board of Ed and they are not told they have no right because they do not have kids in the system. Nor should those of us participating in this discussion be told we should stay out of hatikvah's business. We have a right to participate in this discussion. A discussion that should stay focused on the actual issue not speculation about motives, backgrounds, etc.

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Paying Attention

7:36 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013

My notes from the Council hearing record 87 passenger vehicles and 55 tractor trailers on the 1987 Google Map of 7 Lexington Ave and the surrounding industrial zone, reflecting considerable commercial activity at the location.

Deborah Cornavaca

4:59 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

@seeforyourself

In 2004 I was part of a community group that was put together to discuss school renovations in the district. In those discussions, 8 years ago, the district articulated it was their goal to implement full day kindergarten. They had to create the space first and foremost. Eight years ago the district began the process. Long before Hatikvah.

Second, foreign language programs in this district's elementary school were a state model. We began instruction in third grade. That program was phased out as a result of the deep losses to the budget - state cuts and perhaps in part charter costs- and everyone I know in the district wants it back. The district had elementary school foreign language long before Hatikvah.

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Deborah Cornavaca

9:10 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Thank you Paying Attention for finding that information. So is it not a legitimate concern that there could be that kind of traffic generated by whatever locates in 5 Lexington Avenue? And if so how would that impact the school environment in terms of air quality, noise levels, traffic patterns and safety? 5 Lexington Avenue would not need a variance to bring in that kind of business because that is what the area is zoned for.

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Quick info

9:14 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013

The zoning board already granted approval to 5 Lexington to convert the entire building into medical offices. There is just no market for warehouse space. I'm a realtor, so I know about the demand in the area.

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Deborah Cornavaca

9:23 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Thanks for that update Quick Info. I had not found that out. Last time I had checked, which was a couple months back, it was still for sale. Appreciate you chiming in with that.

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countrywoods

2:59 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Ms Cornavaca, why do you keep misleading everyone? why don't you tell everyone who are the neighbors next door to the new site? its not a warehouse it's the Chinese Evangel Mission Church which reside in the next door building safely since December 16, 2007 and Besides the two weekly worship services, ministries of the church also include children and adult Sunday schools, various fellowship groups, retreats, vacation Bible schools and other special events at the location.

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Deborah Cornavaca

4:42 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

The immediate neighbors of 7 Lexington Avenue are 5 Lexington Avenue (currently vacant) and a vending truck company located on Litchfield. The church is 2 doors down. I do not believe I have misled anyone on what is clearly visible from a google photo or a trip down the road.

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Hope

11:21 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

Dear Deborah - maybe the next artice that you write should be "In my own voice....How I became so desperate to close a charter school that i had illegal conversations with the judges in my appeal case" It would be nice to hear your justifcation for that.

Saying that you are 2 stay at home moms, fighting for the safety of innocent children is ridiculous. Your desperate actions speak louder than your insincere words.

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