Hey baseball fans!
I am often asked who I believe are the greatest baseball players ever. While I have blogged in the past on Baseball with Matt about who is on Baseball with Matt's Dream Team, today it is time to learn who would be on......baseball's Mount Rushmore! The way I evaluated who made the cut is based on the player's contributions to baseball and his similarities to the President that he represents. Hope you enjoy:
George Washington - Babe Ruth:
Washington was the first President of the United States and helped the nation gain independence from Great Britain. Ruth was the first real baseball star who everyone knew and helped baseball gain publicity throughout the country because of his exciting play.
Thomas Jefferson - Lou Gehrig:
Jefferson, overshadowed by Washington, was a great leader in his own quiet way. He was also one of the first Presidents of the United States and performed this task with great consistency. Gehrig, overshadowed by Ruth for most of his career, was the first captain of the Yankees and led the team with a quiet fist. Also, he performed the act of captain of the Yankees with great consistency, playing in 2,130 consecutive games, the all-time record for more than 60 years.
Theodore Roosevelt - Willie Mays:
Teddy was an all-around person in his skills and interests. He was also the youngest president in U.S. history. Willie was very good in MLB at a very young age. He was in baseball at the age of 20, won Rookie of the Year in 1951, won his first MVP Award at the age of 23, and made his famous World Series catch only three years into his career. Wille is also considered the best all-around player of all time.
Abraham Lincoln - Jackie Robinson:
Abe had a big impact on civil rights during the time of his presidency and brought the country together by ending the Civil War. Jackie broke the sports color barrier and, in simple words, integrated baseball forever.
Hope you enjoyed this blog post. Please tell all your friends about it, if you did.
BART FRAENKEL
4:04 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012
Good job
Matt Nadel's Baseball with Matt (a kid blogger's baseball history blog)
6:51 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Thanks Bart! Hope you liked the picture too.
Hank
6:29 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I'm 0 for 4
I had :
Oliver Perez
Dick Stuart
Rafael Santana
John Rocker
and Oliver Perez again
Matt Skoufalos
2:41 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
How could you leave off Turk Wendell? That necklace deserves to be etched in granite for eternity.
Sean McCullen
10:59 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I'd go Ruth, Williams, Mays, and Bonds. Bonds very well may have cheated at the end, but even if he hadn't, he would've put up unprecedented numbers. Disappointing that he did, but also a near given in the era he played. They were all cheating. There's no disputing what he did between the late 90s and early 2000s, before his PED use appeared to begin, was out of this world, too.
Pete Heinbaugh
2:08 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
I like what you did, Matt, in not just necessarily choosing the best four baseball players; but matching the impact to the Presidents.
Here's my list (choosing the best four):
1. Ruth - far and away. Heck, he would've been a hall of fame pitcher if he chose to stay at that position.
2. Mays - One of the best hitters ever. THE best centerfielder ever. One of the best base runners ever. One of the best throwing arms ever. One of the savviest ever. Add it all up and he's easily number 2 on my list.
3. Ted Williams - Other than the Babe, the best hitter of all time. .482 career on-base percentage. .482!! .482!!!
4. Cy Young - Tremendous body of work. Most ever 511 career wins, with 417 being the distant second most (Walter Johnson). At the turn of the century, he showed the sport what an ace pitcher is supposed to be.
David Glass
7:20 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Although Ted Williams was a great player I dont think he should be on Mt. Rushmore. Based on Matt's criteria one has to be a great leader or in this case an ambassador who had a major impact on the game. Williams had a great military career but he was often aloof or combatitive with the press and fans. Regardless of the steroid iissue the same holds true for Barry Bonds as well.
Pete Heinbaugh
9:20 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
You may be right, David. But I veered from Matt's criteria and simply listed, in my opinion, the four best ball players.
Larry Seltzer
7:28 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Why no pitchers? If we were going to have one, who would it be?
Cy Young
Walter Johnson
Nolan Ryan
Randy Johnson
Turk Wendell
Hank
7:34 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
I was thinking Luis Tiant but he would be facing the wrong way
Bryan Littel
12:22 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
What, no Rick Vaughn?
Pete Heinbaugh
12:30 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Its hard to say that name in your head - Rick Vaughn - without hearing it in that gruff, gravely voice of Lou the manager.
Mark
8:21 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
How 'bout Kenny Powers. Nobody throws heat like him.
Matt Nadel's Baseball with Matt (a kid blogger's baseball history blog)
8:13 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Larry - how about some of these great pitchers, many of whom you may not have even heard of: http://www.baseballwithmatt.blogspot.com/2012/07/greatest-pitchers-youve-never-heard-of.html
XJS
11:01 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Steve Carlton or Tom Seaver should make the pitching discussion. I also think that Verlander has a lot left to offer this sport.
Regular players: This thread has hit the majority of the names I'd expect to see, although, does anyone think that a player like Ichiro Suzuki deserves some thought? He's arguably the greatest leadoff hitter of our generation, no?
This article was very fun to read and well thought. I enjoyed it. Keep more of these coming.
LVLongtimer
9:06 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Babe Ruth
Ty Cobb
Willie Mays
Ted Williams
(Open to "trading" Ted Williams for Walter Johnson if u want a pitcher :) )
About Me
9:30 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Babe Ruth
Ted Williams
Willie Mays
Pete Rose
Mark
8:18 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Isn't Pete Rose banned from being mentioned on blogs that mention baseball???
Hank
7:39 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
2 to 1 says Pete Rose does not make it to Rushmore
About Me
5:08 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012
But after all, he was "Charlie Hustle," guys! You know, 'rush more,' get it?
Michael Megill
9:37 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
I believe you need to consider Alexander Cartwright. He was the actual "father" of baseball and did play on the NY Knickerbockers. Cartwright is given credit for designing the baseball diamond and the first set of rules, I think.
Michael Murray
11:13 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Babe Ruth, Cy Young, Ty Cobb, Hank Aaron.
Matt Nadel's Baseball with Matt (a kid blogger's baseball history blog)
8:12 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Ty was very good was not a very nice person
John M.
10:30 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Agree 3 out of 4 with Michael. Although Ty Cobb was one of the greatest ever, he was a racist and a real jerk. I would consider putting Henry Aaron up there twice or replacing Cobb with Jackie Robinson.
brrr
12:11 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
id go for ziad , jerry , marc & david . ( 4 councilmen from Springfield ...after all someone has to make this post political LOL).
Matt Nadel's Baseball with Matt (a kid blogger's baseball history blog)
6:05 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Thanks everyone for all the great comments. This is the most comments I have ever gotten on a blog post for the Patch. I do like all my picks for Mount Rushmore, but if I was going to have a pitcher, it would have to be Denton T. "Cy" Young.
Matt Skoufalos
6:51 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Some of the best comments in a while here. Good work, everyone.
Matt Nadel's Baseball with Matt (a kid blogger's baseball history blog)
8:11 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
I agree. Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I have 3 other great blog posts in the on deck circle, which I think you will all like.
Marcia Worth
7:25 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Great timing for this post, as we're all celebrating R. A. Dickey, Mets Cy Young Award winner. Thank you!
Sean McCullen
12:51 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
I guess you take what you can get as a Mets fan. Kidding. Well, sort of.
Stan Walker
7:47 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Branch Rickey
LVLongtimer
9:06 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
How about Abbott & Costello? :)
Hank
11:16 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
If you pick Barry Bonds
for Mt Rushmore
what would be cheaper
the steroid head or the non steroid head?
Fedup
11:53 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
In my opinion, Tom Seaver should be front and center in any conversation discussing the greatest baseball players of all time.
Matt Nadel's Baseball with Matt (a kid blogger's baseball history blog)
8:10 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Tom Seaver would definitely be on the NY Mets' Mount Rushmore.
Tom Basta
7:16 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012
There's no way to compare hitters and pitchers. Post dead-ball era, the Mount Rushmore for hitters is Ruth, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, and Mickey Mantle.
For pitchers: It's Sandy Koufax, Nolan Ryan, Greg Maddux, and Walter Johnson (I hestiate to mention Johnson, as great as he was, because he goes back to an era that is completely impossible era to compare)
Just Facts
9:37 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012
People are saying "Bonds" ? His head got so big from the steriods it wouldn't fit on Mount Roushmore! lol
Fred M
11:04 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012
Never for Bonds...You can't ever honor a guy ever for doing Steroids, regardless when he started doing them. Givin him a pass because he had Hall of Fame numbers before he started taking them?. Does anyone know what year he stated taking steroids? I DONT
jesse
12:27 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012
My "Met" Rushmore: Tom Seaver, Keith Hernandez, Mike Piazza, David Wright.
John M.
10:33 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
You would have to have a little bust of Marv Thronberry too.
Realistic Person
7:10 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Sorry man, but Willie Mays does not belong there. Someone like Cy Young, Christy Mathewson, Larry Doby, Hank Aaron, Ted Williams, Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Satchel Paige or Josh Gibson all belong there more than "Say Hey"...
jazzman
8:04 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
you sound about 90 yrs old,but im sure your young looking for attention or looking at stats,this story has to be about all around and unless you missed the play of the best player all around that the sport has ever seen your lost,he was a amazing outfielder,ran the bases better then anyone,hit home runs,and from my memory,..had a batting average of about 300,would have been higher if he didnt play into his 40`s,and most of all,... which.. and this you have know idea what im talking he had the love of the game which hasnt been seen since his time,Hank Aaron? no one even heard of Hank Aaron until he hit 714....so wheres your Mickey Mantle...these are 2 names that made baseball what it is today,Ted Williams was a arrogant bast.Ty Cobb was another one,
BART FRAENKEL
10:55 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Ted Williams had a reputation as being surly with the media and that was true. But he was one of the greatest hitters of all time and he was a terrific teammate as well as a real American war hero, a strong supporter of the Jimmy Fund (cancer fund), and a teacher of the game to young players. I had the fortune of playing on his summer camp travel team in 1967 at Lakeville, Massechusetts. He took time to talk with the players and teach us some of the things that only a great ballplayer could teach. Yogi Berra thought highly enough of him that he also sent his sons to play there that summer, and Yogi has always been a good judge of players and people.
the dude
11:46 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Is that what they've been saving his head for, baseball's Mt. Rushmore?
Joseph Keyes
12:17 pm on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
For the old guys:
Yogi
Whitey Ford
Duke Snider
Pee Wee Reese
Roy Campanella
P.S. Please don't carve this Rushmore on Indian land...
Dazed not Confused
8:24 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
How about Pete Rose, Billy Martin, Darryl Strawberry and A-Rod? It's fine to enjoy the game, but to put these guys on the same pedestal of some of our greatest politicians is a crime. Most athletes are overpaid, not particularly smart, and (with very few but notable exceptions) are not good role models. They just happen to be talented athletes...it's time that we stop celebrating them