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(POLL) Will You Shop at Walmart When it Opens in East Brunswick?

Patch wants to know if you will shop at the Walmart once its open.

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So tell us, Patch readers. Will you shop at the Walmart when it’s built? If not, tell us what local businesses you prefer to go to for groceries, clothes, toys and more.

Everyone has been in a Walmart at one time or another. Let us know if you plan to go back.

Susan Yatsko April 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM
No, I prefer to shop at Target.
John Romano April 28, 2012 at 12:37 PM
.....if I want the "tons of stuff" they have...I'll shop at Amazing Savings or Dollar Tree...they probably have better quality. Unless the residents of E.B. want to take out their hankies and start waving bye-bye to all the existing local merchants...they'd better open their eyes...wise up and support them with their wallets. ...and..how about a few additional polls while we're at it? Perhaps....some of these: Which store(s) will be hit the hardest..and close down first? How much do you expect your property value to decrease now that there is a toxic waste dump in the town? What percentage of traffic increase will streets like Milltown Road, Ryders Lane, (and all of their interconnected branching streets through residential neighborhoods) expect to see by driving commuters trying to avoid the vicinity of Rte 18 & Tices La. while en-route to / from the NJ Tpke or Rte 1? How long before the mayor makes some form of "it's good for the town" type statement?
Kelly April 28, 2012 at 01:38 PM
I can't think of any U.S. company that has propelled more of a downward spiral on the U.S. economy. I haven't set foot in one, in over a decade since I first started learning about their societal impact, their unethical business practices, and their treatment of women in the workplace. They will not see a penny of my money. I care too much about my community. It makes me really, really sad that people would support a company like this. It seems some people will do anything to save a buck, even its at the expense of their neighbors.
Bill Mccann April 28, 2012 at 04:50 PM
There was a great joke on Saturday Night Live about the downward-sloping line of class from Target to Walmart. Unfortunately this joke is now on us, and East Brunswick will become "that town with the Walmart" to future home buyers. Those buyers don't pay premium prices for housing. At least Walmart will have a housing project full of potential customers next door.
Lisa M. April 28, 2012 at 06:37 PM
Just the tax revenue alone is fantastic for East Brunswick and it brings others into the neighborhood to shop. Also, the revenue from the traffic camera won't hurt either. On top of everything else, lets think about the employment opportunities. Nobody is being forced to shop there, but their prices make it affordable for the average family to buy necessities. Princeton has a Walmart, and if its good enough for Princeton, well then it's good enough for E. Brunswick!
John Romano April 28, 2012 at 07:31 PM
....tax revenue?...are you talking about property taxes? I believe they got a huge abatement as part of the "lovely" deal that town agreed to as part of the law-suit settlement. The town doesn't collect sales tax (as far as I know)....that's the state's job...and their money. Please...tell me...how much property taxes will the town collect from property owners that have stores that go vacant? I'll give you a clue: It rhymes with hero...and starts with a Z. You don't get blood from a stone...and that's what vacant properties are...dead...cold...concrete & steel. ....and...if by chance there is some form of bountiful revenue channeled into the town coffers...I'm pretty sure that they will find some boondoggle to waste it on (look no farther than the adjacent parking garage). Giving them funding is like giving a loaded gun to a toddler. The employment "opportunities" of which you speak so fondly.....will be there all right. However...I'd rather not think of them. Those jobs will allow the average family to buy their necessities....it'll keep them happy and content with an endless supply of Dollar Menu french fries and shakes. Burgers...however...are reserved for only special occasions.
Liti Haramaty April 28, 2012 at 08:03 PM
John - which stores are you concerned about? Are there any privately owned stores in EB?
Liti Haramaty April 28, 2012 at 08:06 PM
No. If I need cheap stuff I go to Target. It's closer to my house.
Liti Haramaty April 28, 2012 at 08:15 PM
This discussion reminds me of what happened a few years ago on the other side of Ryders lane. The lovely farm stand that I use to go to frequently closed and the property was sold to Wendy's. I went to the Milltown planing board meeting and heard the owner's son explains that this property was his father's retirement money. And Wendy's paid well. Can't argue with that. I never entered that Wendy's. But I know many people who were against opening a junk food eatery on that location and ended up going and taking their kids because 'the kids wanted' 'it's closer McDonald's or bk'... My guess is that Walmart will be doing great business because residents, many who don't like the idea of a Walmart, because it's convenient and cheap and it's already there.
Harry S. April 28, 2012 at 08:23 PM
We previously had Sam's Club...Which is WalMart...So what are we gaining here? A Target store would have at least brought a better reputation to East Brunswick.
richard pugliesi April 28, 2012 at 08:26 PM
The site gave a home to Sam's club for years and traffic was tolerable. I respect others who criticize wages, however Cosco a competitor pays an average of $20/hr and serves a needfor middle class workers. I would not knock the Company for filling that social need . The business's that are lingering barely surviving will go under sooner than you think, and leave people to go to freehold for special prices and items conveniance buys the public something,prices another. I'm for it ......
Christopher April 28, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Not a fan of Wal-Mart. East Brunswick can do better.
Chris April 29, 2012 at 02:27 AM
I think that the average person that shops at Wal-Mart believes that they are getting great deals. The problem is that they arent aware that most companies distribute there goods to Wal-Mart at discounted prices because they are made specifically for Wal-Mart. A Sony TV sold at Wal-Mart is not the same quality as one from say Best Buy. Also, people don't see that there are long term negative affects such as lower property values. Does it really make sense to save $300-$500 a year on groceries and cheap clothing when the value of your home may decrease 10%??? I will add that I have shopped in Wal-Mart before. When I am out of town on vacation...mostly in Florida, I will pick some things up and when I am there i always comment that the prices arent so far off from other stores but the quality of there goods are just awful.
Ralph Wiggums April 29, 2012 at 03:04 AM
I understand everybody's concern over Walmart just sucking the income from many local stores, and the moral issue over Walmart treating many employees like indentured servants, but my issue isn't the store itself but the people who walk through the doors to shop there. I've bough several things from Walmart this past Christmas because it saved me money, however I try to stay away from that place unless I can't find what I'm looking for anywhere else. I cannot even count how many low-life's and dregs of society that I have encountered while trying to get in and out with what I need. I can't guarantee that I'll never set foot in the place, but I will go out of my way to avoid it because I can guarantee the walking dead will be coming out from all around and it's only a matter of time before some lazy, overweight, white-trash woman with her gut hanging out of her spandex shorts and undersized tank top will walk through the door with her overweight 5 year old son in a greased stain shirt and sweet mullet. There are many species of Walmart creatures, these are just 2 examples. I'm sure other posters here have seen many other species as well.
Debra J Bermann April 29, 2012 at 03:09 AM
Don't we already have enough of these types of discount stores! Target is in Milltown 'proper' but it's really East Brunswick (Ryder's Lane) and Wal-Mart is 5 minutes down the road in North Brunswick (very close to Milltown). Who needs another one? How about a Whole Foods or Wegman's? That would be a nice alternative to Shop Rite and Pathmark! And who needs MORE traffic on Route 18? It's over-crowded already!
Debra J Bermann April 29, 2012 at 03:14 AM
I had one more thought about this Wal-Mart possibility, which I really don't want. How about a Trader Joe's coming to East Brunswick? All the 'nicer' stores (Wegman's, Whole Foods and Trader Joe's) are too far from East Brunswick to do weekly shopping. It's either driving to Princeton or Woodbridge! Not with the gas prices and traffic on Route 1, 27 and 18! It's a pain to get to those stores!
PHYLLIS April 29, 2012 at 11:50 AM
WALMART SEEMS TO HIRE NONBORN AMERICANS.I WOULD RATHER DO WITHOUT SOMETHING THAN SHOP AT WALMART.
jesse April 29, 2012 at 12:01 PM
Lisa, you couldn't be more uninformed. Exactly what type of tax revenue do you think the town will benefit from? You aren't familiar with this land deal, are you? And, really?! Jobs! What do believe the average jobs created when a Walmart opens. It would've only taken you a few seconds to find a credible source that finds the net job growth is actually a negative one. The job loss, when a Walmart opens in town, outpaces the job growth, by a huge margin. And, the jobs created are not a living wage jobs. In fact, every time a Walmart job is created, it costs taxpayers money by creating once more medicaid recipient, because Walmart doesn't provide benefits.
David Rosenthal April 29, 2012 at 02:42 PM
Wegman's, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's raises the bar and enhances quality of life in and around East Brunswick. For those who choose to patronize WalMart, their current location on Route 1 in North Brunswick is only a few short minutes away.
Liti Haramaty April 29, 2012 at 09:08 PM
Would be great to have Trader Joes, Whole Foods and Wegmans in East Brusnwick. But apparently we are not the demographic these companies are looking for. Having said that.... it doesn't heart to approach them and ask.... Like the facebook page or sign the petition to add your name to a letter that will be sent to Trader Joes soon. http://eastbrunswick.patch.com/articles/facebook-campaign-eyes-a-trader-joe-s-in-east-brunswick http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/trader-joes-in-east-brunswick/
Susan Jones April 30, 2012 at 01:14 PM
When we moved to East Brunswick almost 39 years ago, this town was a source of pride for our family; Now. it has been reduced to a source of embarrassment. The quality of stores, the empty malls, the downgrade of major businesses is pathetic. I feel sorry for he local store owner who has tried to remain in business, in spite of its low quality competition.
Kathie April 30, 2012 at 08:24 PM
Nonborn?
Christopher April 30, 2012 at 11:40 PM
Susan, in June of last year I relocated my family to East Brunswick after living in NYC for 15 years. My mom and dad relocated me and my little brother to East Brunswick in 1978. It's definitely feeling a lot more run down these days, though I'd chalk much of it up to the bad economy than something unique to East Brunswick. I still think East Brunswick has a lot of great qualities, or I wouldn't have moved back. East Brunswick seems to be having an identity crisis these days. A real mix of lower income and higher income housing coming online. And as someone earlier said, being bordered by Spotswood, Milltown, North Brunswick and New Brunswick makes it harder for East Brunswick to attract higher end stores and restaurants. That's unfortunate, but probably true. It doesn't mean we have to lower the bar quite as far as it seems to be heading, of course. Hopefully we'll eventually see some leadership that focuses on revitalizing East Brunswick for the longer term. Until then, only support the establishments you really believe are good for the township.
Jack Wagon May 01, 2012 at 12:52 AM
Most of these posts have overtones that wreak of snobbery. You live in EB folks, not Rumson or Franklin Lakes. Move to Alpine if you don't want a Wal-Mart. EB created that mega shopping disaster on Rt.18, but now it's one scummy store too many for you? EB is one town away from the city of New Brunswick on one side and the rest of EB is surrounded mostly by blue collar, middle, to low income towns like No. Bruns., South River, Old Bridge, Sayreville, Spotswood, Helmetta, and Jamesburg. SB is the only town that borders EB that I would consider moderately higher middle income, but they already have the Princeton area to shop upscale stores. I don't think EB is upscale enough for a Wegmans, Trader Joe's or Whole Foods These "nicer" stores, as one of you put it, are far away from EB for a reason. The demographics just aren't there for this these upscale stores. Be thankful that someone wants to move into EB at all, and generate commerce in that God forsaken traffic nightmare called Rt. 18. There is a lot of empty commercial property out there right now. If you're really worried about the local merchants, they'll all be fighting for your dollars now, and I for one, feel that competition will be better for the consumer, especially during the current economic conditions. Let the chips fall where they may.
John Romano May 01, 2012 at 12:58 AM
I agree Christopher. WE shouldn't have to "lower the bar". But that doesn't mean that the town leaders feel that way. It seems it was too easy for EB Town and Planning boards to accept the deal which is the "Tarnished Tin Plate Triangle". They made an insane land deal to begin with. They had no leverage in the choice of end-user. They had no power to challenge the variances that were "requested". They were swatted in the "hind quarters", with absolutely no recourse but to say, "Thank you sir...may I have another". Heaven forbid the town's leadership put some effort into outlining strict criteria for the development of that site. Instead...they lowered the greenspace requirement (fyi...Walmart doesn't want all those trees because they would obstruct the view of their building from the street....and don't believe anything to the contrary). Has the sum that was donated to the shade tree fund been made public yet? Oh, wait, for getting their variance granted the developer has "agreed to consider" making a donation to the shade tree fund. What does that mean? They wake up one morning and say, "Nevermind...I'd rather not make a donation"? By the way if it's any less than $2000 per tree, the town got ripped off. This deal...top to bottom....reeks of incompetence and indifference to the best interests of the town. THAT is the direction that the town leaders are steering us...and it makes me seriously wonder if any of them are related to the captain of the Titanic.
John Romano May 01, 2012 at 01:12 AM
.....I don't think it's snobbery. I think...that given the ever increasing tax burden that is levied on homeowners in the town....that they expected better. They expected the leaders to look out for them and their best interests. They expected the town to be able to research the architect and find that their #1 retail client was Walmart. They expected that such a crazy land deal...one of which is now cited as an example under the word "stupid" in the dictionary...could never come to pass under their elected leaders "watch".
Christopher May 01, 2012 at 01:38 AM
Yeah, I agree. I don't think anyone's arguing that East Brunswick wants to be the next Short Hills, but I mean, geez... there's gotta be a happier medium than what we've got.
Jack Wagon May 01, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Guys, I understand what you are saying, but I'll still stand by what I wrote. We can blame the politicians past and present for the monster that Rt. 18 has grown into, but this deal is the preverbal _ _ _ _ sandwich and everyone in EB is getting a piece.

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