Quarantine the Healthy

Why everyone needs a flu shot

In this country, there are millions of people who because of age or illness do not have strong immune systems or have other medical problems that make them frail.  The majority of these have already had the flu shot and are doing everything possible to protect themselves.  Unfortunately, most “healthy” people have not had the flu shot because they do not want to “start the shot thing” or because of bizarre excuses such as “I have never had the flu,” or ignorant statements like “you can get the flu from the shot” (actually impossible).   Now those healthy vaccine abstainers are getting influenza and their behavior is killing anyone who is young, old or frail.

You see the flu shot only works 60-70% of the time and even less in people with impaired immunity.  That means that as the epidemic spreads though the “healthy” people that refused to be vaccinated, it is transmitted to little children, the elderly and to patients with cancer, diabetes, lung disease, heart disease, kidney disease and any other ailment you name, even if they have been vaccinated.  Healthy people get a few days off work, complain about the headache-vomiting-fever and then recover. Societies weakest members spend weeks recovering, end up in the hospital, and in numbers that will soon reach into the thousands, die.

It is called herd immunity.  Unless most of the herd is immune, then no matter what they do, the weakest suffer the most.  A mature and responsible herd tries to protect the entire group, in order shield the weak.  Therefore, when large members of the herd invent reasons to avoid their responsibility, it is not they that suffer, but the child down the street.

We respect the individual’s right to opt out of certain herd responsibilities; no one would recommend a legal mandate for flu vaccines.  However, since refusing to be vaccinated puts others in the herd at risk for their lives, it seems reasonable to us that if you are not going to protect the herd by getting the flu shot, then why don’t you drop out of the herd.

Now, of course, we do not mean permanently leaving public life… just until the flu season has past … say April.  The most ethical and respectful behavior would be to go into your house, apartment, condo, cubby or cave, close the door or rock and hibernate the next three months.  To make is easier to keep away friends and family we will provide a large glossy sign, with red letters on a black background, skull optional, which says “Warning: Flu Carrier – Quarantine,” to guarantee that no one from the herd bothers you and you cannot contaminate them.

There are wonderful benefits from living in civilized society, but there are also moral and practical responsibilities.  By failing to be vaccinated, you place vulnerable neighbors at risk.  The honorable thing to do is to withdraw until the crisis has past.

See you in Spring,

The babies, mothers, grandparents and patients of America

P.S.  Get your flu shot, today!




As published in Sunrise Rounds.


By using this blog, you agree to these terms, which may change. This blog is for personal educational use only. Children under the age of 13 may not use this blog. Blog user agrees not to rely on this blog and releases Blogger from any damages arising from its use. This blog is compliant with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Please report infringements to jimsal@sunriserounds.com.

This post is contributed by a community member. The views expressed in this blog are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of Patch Media Corporation. Everyone is welcome to submit a post to Patch. If you'd like to post a blog, go here to get started.

Monk January 16, 2013 at 07:49 PM
I rather like living in a cave.
James Salwitz January 16, 2013 at 07:59 PM
While caves do have their attractions, I would definitely agree with KK that exercise and diet can go along way to prepare us to resist and recover from infections like the flu. This years flu vaccine "guess" was right on target, and exactly predicted the infecton which is sweeping the Country. The problem is that it is only 60-70% protective and less than 1/3 of the population got the vaccine.. Therefore, perhaps the best answer is "all of the above"; i.e. get the flu shot, exercise, wash your hands neurotically, eat well, get plenty of sleep and perhaps retreating into our caves for a while, may help. jcs
Norman January 16, 2013 at 09:07 PM
@anonymous...." I suggest you do some research on the Internet, real research that hasn't been tainted by doctors indoctrinated by the medical establishment..." Right because if it is on the internet it HAS TO BE TRUE...see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bufTna0WArc
Norman January 16, 2013 at 09:11 PM
You are a true gentleman Doc! And by the way, CVS has it for $30. (Save a few $ )
Norman January 16, 2013 at 09:14 PM
Dr S.. Any suggestions how to increase protection beyond suggestions above while on an airplane? I did take my shot (albeit a little late) and will be taking a trip early next week.
James Salwitz January 16, 2013 at 10:18 PM
Most of these bugs are transmitted by touch.... carriers don't sneeze in our face, they sneeze in their hand and then touch ours. Thus, even in an airline using tons of Pyrell or equivilent and soap/water goes a long way. Don't forget the old elbow bump, instead of a handshake. The moment you think you might be sick getting a dose of Tamiflu can abreviate the misery. Hopefully, you are taking a trip someplace warm and dry. jcs
marylou January 16, 2013 at 11:35 PM
My husband and I got our's at the Shoprite pharmacy.We have insurance,but the cost for those without it is about $20.Isn't increasing the odds that you won't catch the flu worth that much?
BobDee January 17, 2013 at 02:52 AM
Just before the flu season of 2003-2004 the CDC recommended for the first time that children younger than 60 months (5 years) and older than 6 months receive an annual flu vaccination. About this time is when the fad of getting a flu vaccine became common for not only children under 5, but for everyone over 5 as well. [source CDC.gov] [source vaccineinformation.org] The following is a list of different years and the number of flu associated deaths in children reported to the CDC: •1999-2000 -36 deaths •2000-2001 -30 deaths 17% decrease •2001-2002 – 25 deaths 17% decrease •2002-2003 – 29 deaths 16% increase (This is the last year that the flu vaccine was considered “unsafe” by the CDC for children under 5 – now let’s watch the increase of deaths after the CDC recommends all children age 6 months to 5 years be vaccinated for Influenza.) •2003-2004 – 153 427% increase •2004-2005 — 47 deaths 69% decrease •2005-2006 – 46 deaths 3% decrease •2006-2007 – 68 deaths 48% increase •2007-2008 – 88 deaths 29% increase •2008-2009 – 133 deaths 51% increase •2009-2010 – 282 deaths 112% increase •2010-2011 – 115 deaths 59% decrease
BobDee January 17, 2013 at 02:53 AM
The number of children dying from the flu has risen *drastically* since the CDC recommended children under 5 receive the flu vaccine. There has been an average of 67% increase of flu-associated death in children since the CDC recommended children under 5 receive the flu vaccine. According to research presented at the 105th International Conference of the American Thoracic Society in San Diego, children who get the flu vaccination have a 3 times greater risk for hospitalization: They found that children who had received the flu vaccine had three times the risk of hospitalization, as compared to children who had not received the vaccine. In asthmatic children, there was a significantly higher risk of hospitalization in subjects who received the TIV (Stands for Trivalent Influenza Vaccine – a.k.a. the flu shot), as compared to those who did not. [source Sciencedaily.com] So in essence, parents who vaccinate their children against the flu are increasing the hospitalization risk for their child! [source CDC.gov] [source vaccineinformation.org]
anonymous January 17, 2013 at 02:56 AM
Hey, Norman. And just because your doctor, who is getting paid off by the pharmaceutical companies to push their toxic vaccines tells you it's good for you, then it must be. There are decades of research that are being ignored (because the exposure and widespread dissemination of the truth about vaccines would bring a halt to the gravy train for Big Pharma) that show clealry that nearly all vaccines not only do not work as claimed, but cause countless harmful, and in all too many cases, fatal side effects. But you just go right on believing and let them inject you with adjuvants like mercury and aluminum.
catherine January 17, 2013 at 03:08 AM
I agree with KK who is right on the money! Being proactive is much more important than reacting to something that already has happened, with good diet and habits combined. It's a shame that the medical and dental establishments do not follow this idea or encourage their patients to do so. It would cost alot less in the long run, I guarantee it too!
Norman January 17, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Interesting stats BobDee..... Dr S. Can you comment or provide some context to this?
Xavier January 17, 2013 at 04:36 PM
If you're contagious stay home! I blame the people who come to work/school/church sick more than those that don't get a vaccine.
marylou January 17, 2013 at 05:42 PM
Chris.most of the time,the people who come to work,etc.with the flu are the ones who didn't get a flu shot.When I caught the flu during my senior year of high school,I had to bring a dcotor's note saying that I was no longer contagious.This wouldn't be a bad thing for employers to do.But,if the boss is the one who comes in sick....
BeyondReality January 17, 2013 at 09:19 PM
Humans have survived a long time with out this continuous push of drugs and toxins into our bodies. There are hundreds of countries that are not crazy about their vaccinations and they get along just fine. The truth is that our immune systems have been drastically compromised by this drug age that we live in. When we get sick we take a pill and feel better the next day. This stops your immune system from growing because your body comes to rely on these drugs and toxins. I for one will never get an unnecessary immunization. If i get the flue, guess what? It gives my body the chance to react to it and allow my God given natural immune system to fight it off so I wont get it anything later. If you dont want to get sick you know what you should do? Stop eating McDonalds every day, get up and exercise, eat healthy and change your lifestyle. Thats the only immunization I need. Keep shooting yourself up with these drugs and you all are going to end up looking like those things on I Am Legend. Haha
James Salwitz January 18, 2013 at 01:01 AM
Interesting data. The authors of the 2009 article reporting increased admissions in children after flu vaccines, noted specifically that the admissions did not seem related in timing or cause to the vaccines themselves. Other authors have not been able to replicate those findings in subsequent studies. The increased reported deaths from flu since the begining of vaccinations for children are believed by the CDC to reflect reporting bias. That is, as more interest has been taken in studying and reporting deaths in children and more care has been taken to identify the cause, this has resulted in a false appearance of an absolute increase in deaths from the flu. Nonetheless, continued research and observation is vital. Note that while any death of a child is horrible and unacceptable, the numbers here are in the hundreds ... in the years where we have a flu epidemic, thousands die. jcs
catherine January 18, 2013 at 04:22 AM
I agree with Chris that sick people need to stay home in order to not infect others in their path! Just in the last few weeks, almost all persons I came into contact with (worked closely with) had a cold, the flu, and one even walking-pneumonia for over a month....But most of all, I blame the selfish, indifferent, money-hungry companies where people are afraid to call out sick for fear of being disciplined or even fired. The company I work for has NO personal days and has no tolerance for illness, and after 4 calls out, you are OUT! No questions asked...And then we wonder why my co-workers come to work as infected, walking-dead zoombies for days and weeks on end...These cooperations need to realize that without a vital and healthy workforce they will LOSE in the end, and they need to be more flexible in addressing many of these serious issues that can tank them.
~Barb~ January 18, 2013 at 06:53 PM
There is only one kind of immunity and that is natural immunity which is achieved by battling the infectious diseases itself. Vaccination is merely the artificial triggering of temporary responses to manmade pathogens. Vaccines are both harmful and dangerous and are leading to generations of humans with no natural defenses to disease. Vaccines do not provide long-term immunity; only temporary at best. In vaccines, an antigen is injected into the body to produce a reaction and the immune system responds in the form of antibodies, but antibody presence does not confer immunity. People still catch the diseases that they are vaccinated against. Vaccines actually skip the normal immune responses to activate killer cells which can trigger an overproduction of cytokines in response to the toxic vaccine adjuvants and can damage tissues and organs and even stop the heart and block air pathways. Vaccines should never be called immunizations because that is a misnomer. Immunity and vaccinations are two different subjects altogether. In fact, breast milk is so potent with immune energizing effects in the infant that researchers at the CDC recommend women withhold breastfeeding their children in order to boost the “effectiveness” of childhood vaccines. The paper claims that women should stop breastfeeding long enough for the man-made poison to work on artificial/temporary “immunity.”
James Salwitz January 18, 2013 at 08:58 PM
Interesting thoughts, but a little confusing. The CDC maintains an entire section to strongly encourage breast feeding to build up immunity (http://www.cdc.gov/breastfeeding/data/reportcard.htm) and the only cautions they have listed regarding vaccines are to advise which vaccines should not be given to the mother when she is breast feeding because of unknown effects on the baby. jcs
charlotte January 21, 2013 at 01:06 AM
With the amount we spend on health care and the problems with keeping everyone in hospitals with all the resistant bacteria - your proposal makes good medical and economic sense. Why spend thousands per day when a doctor can visit in the home. Our crazy healthcare/ insurance system seems to be built on profits NOT to serve an actual logical purpose.
Krisrmjlap January 22, 2013 at 06:20 PM
I'm with you anonymous! I wish these ingoramouses would think for themselves and maybe do some research not put out by big pHARMa.
Krisrmjlap January 22, 2013 at 06:23 PM
It's not true that it's 60-70% protective. It's more like 1.5 people in 100. Look at some real facts. Not those put out by those who stand to gain proffits from them.
Krisrmjlap January 22, 2013 at 06:25 PM
So true!
Kathy Giaquinto January 22, 2013 at 06:28 PM
Middletown and monmouth county give them away for free - apparently you can afford a computer or smartphone and internet connection to post on the patch - you must have seen the article on the patch about the free shot or were you to busy complaining ?
Krisrmjlap January 22, 2013 at 06:29 PM
I've seen that too. and also how the other diseases were abating before all the vaccines were introduced. It's our better sanitation and living conditions that improved our health. What ever happened to SCARLET FEVER?????? It's gone and there was no vaccine for it!!
Kathy Giaquinto January 22, 2013 at 06:30 PM
In essence, the research you are quoting does not state your conclusion - you came up with that one on your own.
Kathy Giaquinto January 22, 2013 at 06:31 PM
That is very nice of you, will you also pay for my breast augmentation?
Kathy Giaquinto January 22, 2013 at 08:27 PM
Here you go christine. http://redbank.patch.com/blog_posts/visiting-nurse-association-health-group-is-offering-free-flu-shots-on-walk-in-wednesday-in-red-bank-manasquan
stuffin January 23, 2013 at 01:33 AM
What is wrong with culling the herd? Wouldn't that make the herd stronger and follow the natural direction of life? Or should we keep these debilitated folks alive, thereby feeding the medical machine with tremendous quantities of money. We do spend the most on an individual's medical care in the last two years of their life. I say isolate those at risk, after all, many of them probably contribute little to the herd and leave the rest of us alone.
Norman January 26, 2013 at 07:16 PM
great idea stuffin..let's see how you feel when you are no longer the "stud" you must be now. I'll bet you will be moaning and crying for your mama asking someone to save you.


More »
Got a question? Something on your mind? Talk to your community, directly.
Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors.What's on your mind?What's on your mind?Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell somethingPost something